Rubi:Well,youjustkeeptakingallthewordsandmovingthemarounduntilsatisfied.
Josh:Yes.
Rubi:Buttherestillwasn'troom,soyoujustkeptyourtitle.
Josh:Okay.Icanlivewiththat.
Rubi:Alright.SoJoshishangingaroundwithustoday.Iappreciateyoutakingsometimeoff.Iknowyouhavealottodo.So.
Josh:Iknow.
Rubi:Wehavestolenhoursofyourtime.
Josh:Youknow.WearestillbuildingcreaturesforSuperAdventureBox.Wemakethemalloutoflegosandwe3Dscanthosein.Andthattakesalongtime.
Rubi:That'svalid.YoushouldgetStefantohelp.Imean,heputthatwholethingtogether,whenwewerescaredthathewouldnotmakeit.
Josh:Heismakingthelevelslikeamilliontimesbiggerthanthat.Somanylegos.
Rubi:Hewasworkinginsuperfastforward.
Josh:True.
Rubi:Alright.BeforewestartIwanttotalkaboutyourbee-doglamphere.Cause.
Josh:Mybee-doglamp.
Rubi:Youmadethething.Itisamazing.
Josh:Imadeathing.
Rubi:Alright.Howdidyoudoit
Josh:Oh.
Rubi:Youdon'thavetogivethecomprehensivething.Youcangivelikeareallyshortbreakdown.
Josh:Well,it'sa3Dprint.AndsoItookthegameassetthatwasmadebyJeffWebberandmessedwithitabunchandexportedthatandsubmittedittoShapeways.com.TheywereabletoprintoutthepiecesandsentitbackandthenIassembleditandwiredupwithalightandallthatstuff.
Rubi:Nice.Alright,soareyoukeepingthisforyourveryown
Josh:Well,Imadeseveralcopiesforthecoreteammembersand
Rubi:Verysweetofyou.
Josh:Imadeoneextratogiveaway.Yes.
Rubi:Giveawayto
Josh:Toanyoneandeveryone.AnyonewhogoestomyYouTubechanneloreithersubscribesorsharesit,so.Yeah.
Rubi:Alright.Sooneofyouguyscanwinthebee-doglampforyourveryown.
Josh:Arewegoingtoshowacloseupofthebeedoglamp
Rubi:Yeah,let'stakea,takeacloselookatthat.
Josh:Itissocute.
Rubi:Heisadorable.
Josh:Ohmygod.
Rubi:Iamalready,alreadybeggingJoshsoIcouldreimburseyouforthecostofthematerialstomaybehaveonefortheset.Butthisoneisthegiveawayforyouguys.WehavealittlepreviewofJosh'svideo.It'showyoumadeitandthatiswhereyoucangotowinit,solet'stakeapeekatthepreviewvideoandtellyouwheretogoforthefullvideo.
Josh:Look,I3DprintedmyveryownsuperadventureboxBeeDoglamp,butIdon'thavea3Dprinter.StaytunedtofindouthowIdiditandhowyoucanwinit.Sothat'saveryshortenedversion.Thefullvideois15minutesandgoesallthedetailsofhowtouploaditanddothetexturesandallthatgoodstuff.Assembleit.
Ruby:Yeah.Allright.SoIthinkwehavealinkonwhereyoucangotoseeJosh'svideo.
Josh:It'sprobablydowntheresomewhere
Ruby:Yes,itis.
Josh:Oristhere
Ruby:It'sdownthere.Youcanseeit.Youjustpointdownwardandyou'reallgood.Thisyoucando.Thiscausesyouproblems.
Josh:Yeah,pointingishard.
Ruby:Pointingishard.Allright,let'stalkaboutsomethingyou'remorefamiliarwith,SuperAdventureBox.Webroughtitbackyesterday,itwassomuchfun.Everybodyfelt,everybodythoughtthatwewerelyingtothem.Ihadtotellsomanyofyouguysseriouslyloginandlook.Iswearwearenotscrewingwithyou.Wewouldn'tdothat.Whydon'twetalk...
Josh:Wouldwe,wouldwenot
Ruby:Notabout,notaboutthis.
Josh:Yeah,that'strue,thisissuperreal,yeah.
Ruby:Wewouldnotbelikesuperadventureboxesbackhaha.Justkiddingwe.Wouldn'twereallywouldn'tso
Josh:Youknow,wheneverwepassaroundideasforApril1st,it'salwaysthe1st5minutesispeoplethrowingoutthemosttrollyawfulthingsthatwecoulddo.
Ruby:AndhalfofusgoingGodno.OK,youcan'tdothat.
Josh:Bemeanisprobablynotthespiritwewanttogowith.
Ruby:Yeah,crueltyisnotwherewewanttogowithourAprilfoolsjokes.Wedidreleaseourpatchnotes.WehadAprilFoolsdaypatchnotestoday,soifyougotoourforms,youshouldgocheckthoseoutcausethoseareprettygood.ButIdowanttotalktoyouabouttheprocessbringingSuperAdventureBoxbackaswebroughtthatoutfouryearsago,threeyearsagotoday
Josh:ItwasthefirstAprilFoolsthatGuildWars2had.Wasthat2013
Ruby:OK.FirstAprilfoolsdayinGuildWars2.Yeah,itwasfouryearsago,IKnow,right
Josh:HowoldareweWearesoold.
Ruby:Let'snot.Idon'twanttotalkabouthowoldweare.Butwhydon'twetalkalittlebitabouttheprocessofbringingthatuptodateBecauseitwasn'tjusta"OK,let'sjustturntheswitchonandeverythingttillworks."
Josh:Wouldn'tthatbeniceNo.
Ruby:That'sahappydreamworld.
Josh:Soyeah,Imean,that'stheweirdthingaboutworkingonanMMOisit'snotastableengine.It'ssomethingthat'salwaysbeingtinkeredwithandaddedtoandimprovedandlotsofothertechnicalwordsthatIdon'tknow.
Ruby:Youjustdothem.
Josh:Andsoyeah,whenthere'sapieceofcontentthathasn'tbeeninthegameandliveupdated,allthatstuffjustkindof,kindoffallsapart,yeah.
Ruby:Itdoesn'tlooksogreat.
Josh:SorightafterheartofThorns,alotofpeoplearereallytiredandmostofthestudiosgetachancetojustkindofdosomethingthatyourpassionateaboutforacoupleweeksandjustchilldosomethingcool.
Ruby:Right,right.
Josh:AndsoeveryonewhohasworkedonSuperAdventureBoxinthepast,andevenafewnewpeoplewerelike,yeah,let'sdothis,soyouknow.Itwasacoupleofweeks,it'snotenoughtimetomakeafullnewworld,butit'senoughtimetofixthestuffthatwasbusted.
Ruby:Right,thatwas.Thatwasthethingthatyouhadtalkedaboutinyourblogpostyesterday,youdidn'thavetimeto"OK,let'sbuildanotherfromscratch."
Josh:Youknow,reallyseveralseveralcorememberswerelikewecandoitifwejustworkalldayandallnightwecould.
Ruby:It'sOK,It'sOK.
Josh:WecouldprobablydothisandIjustIhadtosayno,eventhoughIwasverytemptedweshouldnotkillourselves.
Ruby:Wedestroyourhealth.
Josh:There'snowaywecanmakesomething.Thatkindoflivedup.Toour,youknow,ourstandardsofQualityso.Butyouknowthethingsthatwewereabletomakeandandmostlyjustsellingtheideaofthisasafestival.Sothatweknowit'srecurringmakestheteamreallyhappy,sothatpeople,youknow,justlikewintersdayandHalloween,peoplecancountonthiscomingbackandcanplantheirrewardscheduleaccordinglybecause,yeah,thatwasawful.Leavingeveryoneinlimbo,youknow,withwiththetheSAB,youknow,specificstufffromthelastcouplereleases,youknowitwasjustlike,well,peopleareholdingontothisstuff.Theydon'tknowifit'severcomingback.Soyeah,thatwasthatwasfrustratingandI'mreallygladit'sresolvedthisway.
Ruby:Bytheway,aswe'retalking,ifyouhavequestionsforJoshattheendhere,wearegoing,therearesomepeoplethatyoucanputquestionsinchatandtherearesomepeoplecollectingthem.We'llpassthoseonandJoshwilltrytoansweracoupleattheend.Soaswetalk.
Josh:Specificallyanythingaboutworldvworldorthetowerthatwecan'ttalkabout.
Ruby:OK.
Josh:That'smyspecialty.
Ruby:Iwe'vetalkedaboutthisandItoldyouyoucan'tactuallymakethingsup.
Josh:Oh,OK.Inthatcase,ifwebettersticktoSABthen.
Ruby:Youhavetotellthetruth,OK
Josh:OK.Sorryaboutthat.
Ruby:AskJoshquestionsandhewilllietoyou.Thanks,man.AskJoshquestionsaboutSAB.Hewillanswersomeofthoseattheendthere.AndyouknowifyouwanttolietothemaboutSABthat'sonyourhead.
Josh:OK.Fair.
Ruby:Alright,we'vegotthatcovered.Allright.Soasyouwerebringingallofthisstuffuptodate,whatwassomeofthehardeststuffthatyouranintotogetpulledbacktogetherBecauseIknowitwaskindofbrokeninthere.
Josh:Yeah,Imeanwell.Sothere'sthere'sjustlikephysicsrelatedstufflikethingshavebeenimprovedandwhat'sthatwordwhenyoumakesomethingmoreefficient,Iguess.Andsoalotofthelittletricksthatwepulledofftomakecertainthingsworkwerebuiltonlessefficientsystems.Andsotheyjustdidn'tjivewithanyone.Soyeah,alotofthatIthinktherewassomelikehitdetectionstuffthatchanged.There'sabiglistIcan'tremember.
Ruby:It'salot.
Josh:It'sjustalotofcleaningstuff,alotoftechnicalstuff.ThethingIwassuperexcitedaboutfixingwasn'ttechnical,butjustdesignwise.Whenwestartedworldtwo,weweresoexperiencedandIguessyoucouldsaygoodatworldonethattous,thenaturaldifficultyprogressionwastomakeitprettyhardandwelearnedthatwasjustwaytoohard.
Ruby:Notagoodidea.
Josh:Sosogettingtogobackandandsoftenoutalotofthosedifficultyspikeswasreallyexcitingtomebecauseyouknow,asagamedeveloper,whatI'mexcitedaboutisgivingpeoplepositivefunexperiences,exceptfortribulationmode,whichismadeforaverycertainsubsetofpeople.
Ruby:OfPeoplethatyouwanttoenrage.
Josh:Right,so,soyeah,thatwasveryexcitingtomeandreallygreattogetthatinandprobablycontinuetoiterateonthatovertheyearsjusttojusttokeepwe,we'realwayscollectingfeedbackandseeingwherepeoplegetstuckandfrustrated,andjustannoyedbecausethere'sacertainthresholdofpeoplewhoareinterested,theyenjoytheaestheticor,youknowtheideabehinditorjustwanttoparticipatewiththeirfriends,butthere'sacertainskillgatethatcomeswithalljumpingrelatedactivities.Andsotryingtofindthatnicebalancewhereit'sstillfunandengagingforpeoplewhoareexperiencedatjumping,buttheycanalsobringtheirfriendsalong.That'sthechallengethatwetrytoovercome.Almostashardaskeepingmyearpiecein.
Ruby:Yeah.IlostminetooandIWasjustlike"Forgetit.I'mdone"Allright.SoIknowalotofyouguysarenewertoGuildWars2,andweren'taroundforthefirstcoupleofroundsofSuperAdventureBoxandmaybeyouhaven'tbeenin.Iwanttokindoftakeafewminutesandshowpeople.Alright,let'shopontoliverealquickandshowthem.Wheredoyougo,howdoyougetinandhowdoyougetstarted.Doyouwanttodothatrealquick
Josh:OK.Idon'thavelivequeueduphere.IamshowingGuilddecorationsonthiscomputer.
Ruby:Well,I'lltellyouwhatWhydon'twego.Wecangobackwards.Thisisathingthat'snewforeverybodyanyway,soit'smorefun.Allright,ifyouhaveexperiencedthefirsttwo,thisisgoingtobenewtoeverybody.Youdidn't.Youguysdidn'thavetimetomakeawholenewworld.YoudidhavetimetoAddsomethingtoGuilddecorations.
Josh:Yes,I'msuperexcitedaboutthis.
Ruby:Allright,let'stakealook.
Josh:Soyeah,thisisasetofnewGuilddecorationsthatyoucanthatyoucangetby,youknow,normal,normalGuilddecorationcraftingmeans.
Ruby:Thesearegreat.
Josh:Butyoualsousefurniturecoinsthatyougetinnewshopsthatwe'vehiddenthroughouttheSuperAdventureBox.
Ruby:Yougetthosefromdailiestoo.
Ruby:Sothatoneisdifferenttwopicturesdependingonhowyouplaceit.
Josh:Exactly.WelikeefficiencyatSAB,there'sapagodapillarhere,arock.Andthenthere'sthere'sthesekingfrogstatuesyoucanget,whichreallyare.
Ruby:Notentirelyimpressedbythat.
Josh:Yeah,it'sreallyunimpressive.SowethoughtisthereawaytomakeanimpressiveKingfrogstatueandandyes,ifyougetenoughandyoureallyworkatit,youcanmakeyourGuildthisincrediblyimpressiveKingFrog.
Ruby:Thegolden,impressiveking.
Josh:Solidgoldstatueanditismadeoutofsolidgold.Iftherewasawaytobreakthisdown.AllyourGuildmemberswouldprobablyhaveamilliongoldpieces,so.
Ruby:OryourLostPrecipiceguildhallwouldjustturnintotheGildedHollow.
Josh:Hereyougo.
Ruby:Alright,Idohavetogobackandpointout,ifyouguyshaven'tseenthisoneyet,thisdecorationisliterallytitledunimpressiveKingFrog.WhodidthatBecauseitmakesmehappy.
Josh:IthinkthatwasSarahSperry.
Ruby:Thankyou,Sarah.Ilikeit.Alright,sohowmanydifferentpieceshaveweaddedtothedecorationsWasit10
Josh:Iwanttosaythere's,Ithinkweendedupwith11becausewhenwewerealphatestingit,peoplewerefrustratedthattheycouldn'tmakejustlikelittlethings.Soweincludedthis,thisLittleRocknubbinhereasaseparatepieceso.
Ruby:Whydidn'twecallitrocknubbinI'munhappy.
Josh:Youknow,sometimeswewin,sometimeswelose.
Ruby:Well,fine.
Josh:WewonwiththeunimpressiveKingfrog,welostwithnothavingRocknubbin.
Ruby:Yes,wealllosewithouthavingarocknubbin,alright,sothewayyougetthese,youfindthefurniturestores,whichIhaven'tdoneyet.SoI'mnotentirelysurewhere.DowegetahintSpecificallydoIgetahint
Josh:Therearehintsinthegame.
Ruby:No,Iwantahintfromyou.IwanthelpmebecauseIridearoundinthislikedarkholeofdeathandspikesandbombs.
Josh:Oh,ohfromme.OK.
Ruby:HelpmebecauseIwentaroundinthislikedarkholeofdeathandspikesandbombslastnight.
Josh:Right.
Ruby:Ifoundnothing.
Josh:Sosothere'svaryinglevelsofdifficultytotogettotheshop,thefancyproprietordownthereandthatonewiththespikesandbombsisoneofthehardest,theeasiestonethatI'mmostexcitedaboutisshopceptionbecauseoriginallywehadasecretshopandtheninsidethatsecretisasecretshop.You'vegottoburntherug,bombaholeinthefloor,godownthereandthere'sanothersecretshop.Sowedecidedtoputanothersecretshopinthatsecretshop.
Ruby:What'swrongwithyou
Josh:SoyoubombthroughawaterfallinthebackofthatstoreandIwenttotheaudiodepartmentandwaslikewehavegottodoshopceptionmusic.Wehavetoslowthemusicdownbyhalfeverytimeyougointhereandsotheycameupwiththisbrilliantwayofdoingthat.Soyeah,itgoesdowntoThesecretshopinthesecretshopandit'sthisregularshopmusic,butlikepitchdown,slowed,howevertheydoitwiththeiraudiomagic,thenyougointofurtheroneandit'sjustyoujustfeeldrugged.It'ssuperbizarreandsurreal,Iloveit.
Ruby:Ineedtogoplaythisallthetime.
Josh:Thatisinworld1-3.
Ruby:1-3.Dulynoted.OK.Soyou,Iguessbombthingsandblowthemupandburnthemandyouknowso.(Sloweddownshopthemestartsplaying).Ohmygosh,that'samazing.
Josh:Yeah.Thereitis.
Ruby:That'shilarious.Allright,comebacktous.comeback.Therewego.Wehavetoturnitoff,we'regoingtoloseJosh.OK,soyoucanfindthefancyfurnitureshopandtherearefurniturecoinsthere.YoucangetthembydoingyourSABdailies.IsthateverydayOrdidIjusthappentogetluckyyesterday
Josh:Ican'trememberhowwesetitupnow.It'soneofthethingswhenyou'redesigningtherewardstructure,yourunitbythealphas.Youplayitalotandsothingsarealwayschanginguptothelastminute.
Ruby:Alright,soyougetfromdailies,yougetthemfromthefancyfurnitureguy,youtakeyourfurniturecoinstothevendorinyourguildhallandturnthemin,andyougettheclouds.Atthispoint,IthinkIknowmoreaboutrewardsthanyoudo.
Josh:Myhead'sbeenallovertheplace.
Ruby:Yougettheclouds,yourGuildscribescanmakethemintobiggerthings.Ifoundthescribingcosttobeprettyreasonable.IwasReallyhappytoseethat.
Josh:Yeah,thatwasthetopicwehadwithseveraldifferentteamstomakesurethateverythingseemedtofeelright
Ruby:OK.Well,whydon'tyousetuptoshowuswheretogotogetintosuperadventureboxonlive
Josh:OK.
Ruby:Whileyou'redoingthat,I'llremindyouguysifyouhavequestions,Ihaven'tactuallybeenlookingtoseeifwehave.Oh,wedohavequestions.ifyouguyshavesomequestionsforJosh,goahead.We'regoingtorunthroughacouplemorethingsreallyquicklyandthenwewillhaveJoshanswersomequestions.Butforyourfurniturecoins,that'showyougetthem,andJoshisreadytogo.
Josh:Almostready.
Ruby:Solet'stakealook.Yeah,thisisforthoseofyouwhohaven'tgottentoplaysuperadventureboxinthepastandKindofwanttoknowwheretogowheretogoinandhowtogetstarted.Sothat'sactually.
Josh:Soactually,that'stakingmeto,IthinkI'minthehubrightnow,soIshouldbackouttoRataSum.
Ruby:You'reinthehubandyou'reinthehubwithliketheentirefreeworldrightnow.
Josh:Yeah,ItweetedthiswhenIwhenIfirstwentinandIsawjusthundredsofpeoplestreamingpastmeandjumpingonit.Itfeltlike,youknow,recesshadbeencalledandeveryonewasjustjumpingaround,havingablast.
Ruby:School'sout.Yeah,itwasalotoffuntowatch.
Josh:OK.So,yeah,thisthisisthecrazyhub.Thiswasdesignedtojustmakepeoplehappy.OK,letmeshowyou.Thisiswhereyoucomefrom.
Ruby:SoIwasworkingonDailieslastnightandIdidn'trealizetheygettingshotoutofcannonthingwasaroundbeforewasn't.Ididn'tknow.Sothisismyfirstexperiencegettingandforsuperveterans.
Josh:Justabout.
Ruby:Youguysareprobablylaughing.Ijustkindofrunningaroundhavingalotoffunwithitlasttimeanddidn'treallydigintostufflikeOK,godowninTheCave,dothejumpingpuzzle.
Ruby:Prettyfun.
Josh:Andthatyougoup,itgivesyouawarningthatyou'regoingto,youknow,nothaveyourbuttsintouchwithyoubecauseweweretryingtomakethisarealgamewithinagame.Andassuch,youknowdoesn'tmakesenseifyou'rebringinginallthesealltheseextrabuffstoyourself.Andsuch.
Ruby:Noglidingbytheaway.
Josh:Well,Imean,thiscameoutbeforeglidingand.Ifweputitinitwouldcompletelybreakit.
Ruby:Allright.Bytheway,Ikepttryingtoglide.Hey,peoplewavingatyou.
Josh:Soyeah,andandonceyou'rein,there'sthesetwoworldshere.Sothisisthisstumpwilltakeyoutoworldone.Andthislogcabinherewilltakeyoutoworldtwosoyoucanformuptheparty,oryoucouldgoaheadalone.Youcangowithanynumberofpeople.Peoplearefreetodropinorjoinyouatwill.Oneofthereallyfunthingsaboutitisthethatabilitytotojustkindof.Goinandjustwingitandexperienceitinlotsofdifferentwaysonhowmanypeoplearewithyou,sothere'sadvantagesanddisadvantages.Havinglotsofpeople,thisisourunskippablecutscene,madesobyLisa,whowasveryinsistentthatithavetobebecausewe'redoingan.Oldschoolandithastobeunskippable.
Ruby:Soundsgreat.I'msittinghere.Youguyscansee.ButI'mlookingatJoshlike,whyisthatagain
Josh:Thisisoneofthefeedbacksthatwe'veprobablyreceived,probablythesecondmostaskedquestionaboutSuperAdventureBox.Whycan'tIskipcinematicandeverytimeI'mlikeLisa,Areyousurewecouldjust.Skipthis.Andthenshe'sjustlike,no,no.
Josh:Thisistheonlyzone.Justoneone.Alltherestofthe.Youdon'thavetosufferthroughsomatic,butIfeellike.
Ruby:Ifeellikewhenyougetbacktoyourdesk.Lisa'sgonnabewaitingforyou,andthere'sgonnabe,like,areckoningforthrowingunderthebusjustnow,soyoucanalso,ifit'syourfirstfour.Rangesuperadventure.Youcangoalittleeasywith.
Josh:That'sright.YouthislittlefellowanddoinfantilemodeandthatwillgiveyouoneRainbowCloudfriendwhohelpyouthroughallofthereallytoughchallenges.Theybasicallymakebridgesthatyouwalkovertogetovertough,badguysordifficulttojumpareas.Also,forbeginners,alotofpeopledon'trealizethattheyseeacreatureandlikeIbetterkillcreature.
Ruby:Ohyeah.
Josh:Thiscreature,rightButThethingis,thesearejustinnocentbunnies,andthere'sreallynoreasontokillthem.Infact.Ifyoudolet'sseeifIcan.Getthemall.Thiswas,let'sseeonemore.
Ruby:Ihaven'tdonethistime.
Ruby:IsthereathresholdorIsitrandom
Josh:Ithinkit'sifyouclearouteverybodyinthearea.Isthewaywesetthatup.Yeah,myideawasjustthatIwanted.IwantedsomethinglikethethechickenswarminalotoftheZeldagames.Itlookslikelookslikeitcan'tfindtheselastone.
Ruby:Justspeak.
Josh:Yeah,butifyoukillthemall,youwillendupwithwith...
Ruby:Angrybunnies
Josh:Yeah,terrifyingtornadoofBunnies,whichwecalltheBunadochasingyoudown.Thentheworldisyoursforexplorationandit'sgotlotsofexploringthingslike,here'sahere'sasecretcavewhenyoucanaffordbombs,youcan.Youcanbombcertainareasandthesethesearebaubles.That'sthecurrencythatyougetinthegameandyouusethattobuyyoursuperventureboxupgrades.Andalsoyoucansaveupforoutsidethebox.Stufflikeweaponskinsandotherfunrewardsletmetalkaboutridiculousjumpinsidethathiddencave.
Ruby:Later,bytheway,becauseIcan'tdoit,allright.
Josh:Yeah.OK.
Ruby:Sothat'skindofthat'skind.Ofwhereyougoifyouarewantingtostartaninfantilemode,youcanjustkindofrunovertherunovertherainbowsandexploreandnothavetoodifficultatime.Whenyoufirstgotothehub,ifyouhateyourselfforwhateverreason,youcangotribulationmodeandit's.
Josh:Sothere'sthreemodesbasically.
Ruby:Notthisfellow,yeah.
Josh:Imean,it'sareallysimpleconcept.It'sjusteasy,mediumandhard.Soyeah,andhardisjustexcruciatinglyhard.
Ruby:It'stribulationmodeforareason.
Josh:Yeah,Ispecificallychosethattypeofdifficultybecauseit'snot.It'snotlikeaDarkSoulsdifficultywhereit'sfairandthingsaretelegraphed.It'scompletelytheoppositeofthat.AndIwasinspiredbygameslikeCat,Marioand"IWanttobetheGuy"andjustjustwearrandomthingswillberandomlyandit'skindofthefunofexploringandbeingshockedandsurprisedwhenthosethingshappenandthat'sonlyfuntosomepeople,andthat'sfine.
Ruby:Yeah,youdon't.
Josh:It'snot.
Ruby:Youabsolutelydon'thavetodoit.Allright,well,doyouwanttoanswersomequestionsBecausethey'reherewaitingfor.
Josh:Therewego.ShouldIreadthemoutandanswer
Ruby:Goforit.
Ruby:OK,soBlunt,JamesasksI'minSABatthemomentandIneedtoknow,howdoIkeepfromSpendingeverywakingmomentinSAB
Josh:Maybetheansweristosleepmore.
Ruby:Againwecan'thelpyouwiththatmoment.Youwouldthinkwe'retheoppositeofhelpfulhere.
Josh:OK,createaburden.
Ruby:That'sagoodname.Ohh.
Josh:Whatwerethebiggestaspirations,inspiration,inspirationsforSAP,especiallytheBeeDogs
Ruby:Tellabouttheinspirationfor.Beedogs.That'sagoodstory.
Josh:Soyeah,actuallytalkaboutthisonaYouTubevideo,butI'llreiterateithere.SoByronMillerwasourQAandhewasjustlovedBdogs.comanditusedtobewebsitesdown,butthere'sasubredditforforbigdogs.No,they'rethey'rejustdogsdressedasbees.Imean,youcan'tgetmuchmoresimplethanthat.AndIwantedtohavebeesinthegamebecauseIspecificallywantedthisuponthesidethingtobe.Ifyoudon'tkillthemandfollowthemastheycollecttheirpollenbubblesandgothroughamaze,thenyougettoseehowtogetthroughthemazeandyougettotheirtreasuretroveattheend.Andasweweredeveloping,thecreatureswerethinkingbacktooldgamesandlike,whatmadethemfunAlotwasjusthowrandom.Theenemieswere,youknow,likethey'dbeeggplantsorthey'dbe.Turtleswith,youknow,justlikerandomthings,rightAndsowewantedtoputsomekindofweirdnessonallthecreatures,andwehadbeesoutofthere.Actually,dogsdressedas.Butthat'showitcameabout.
Ruby:Becausewhynot
Josh:Plus,itallowedustomakethequeendogshootbeeswhenshebarks.Andyoucan'teverpassanopportunitylikethat.
Ruby:It'sreallysomethingyoucan'tyoucan'tdowithout.
Josh:Withthosewegot.AndIcannotsaythatname.
Ruby:Canwelookforward
Josh:OK,youjust.
Ruby:Readitaramuaramu.WelookforwardtoworldthreeatWorldsthreeandfourinfutureyearsnowthat.Thisisanannualfestival.
Josh:SoImean,yeah,Ikindofaddressthisinmyblogpost.
Ruby:WhyJosh
Josh:Itreallycomesdowntoittakes6to8developersfourtosixmonthstomakeaworld.Andit'slikewhenyou'reworkingonGuildWarstwolikeyouhavetohaveahealthyGuildWarstwoanddistributingtheresources.It'ssotrickytobalancethat.Andsojustrealistically.Awindowofopportunitywherewecanaffordtojustthrow68peopleawayforfourtosixmonths.
Ruby:Right.
Josh:It'sjustit'sveryunlikely.Imean,it'soneofthosethingswherewe'renot,we'renotcuttingofftheoption.Completelybut.Iwouldsay.Chancesareveryslim.
Ruby:Yeah,that'sunderstand.Imean,yougottobringSAPasitisuptosnuffbecauseyou.Happentohavesomedowntimeway.
Josh:Backwhenwehappentohavesixmonthsofdowntime,maybe.
Ruby:OK.Allright.
Josh:Yeah,thisisoneofthethings,rightToughchoicesarealwaysmadeandyouknow,buthavingitasaholidaytomeislike,yes,it'slegitimate.It'sinthegameforgood.It'sgotit'slikeitsrightfulplace.Sotomethatoffsetsthekindofdeploymentofthatandalsobeingabletohavepeoplecreatetheirownkindofjumpingsuperadventureboxjumpingpuzzleswilldefinitelybebringingmoredecorationsoutthroughsubsequentfestivals.
Ruby:Reallyall.
Josh:Imean,that'sjustanobrainerright
Ruby:HowaboutOh,questionfromtennis.
Josh:IwanttoknowwhattheGrayCavemonsterinthelobbyis.Sayingwhenitshakesitsfingeratyou.Sothat'sinternally,wejustcallitthenocloud.SoIguesshe'sjustsaying,no,Ithinkit'sprobablythat'sprobablyabitofanhomagetoJurassicParkwheretheprogrammerhasyouknowwhentheytrytohackintohisconsole.
Ruby:Oh,thatguy.IwaslikewhatIsshetalkingabout
Josh:Yeah,Imeanwejustneed,wejustneedaguytonotletyou.Thebackstagewherethecreaturesyouknowdressandundressand.
Ruby:Havesmokingbreaksandcanmakesomethingrealquick.WhatdoyouwanthimtosayIdon'tknowwhatyouguysthinkhe'ssaying.
Josh:What'soneofthosereallygoodOh,Ipaiditafool.That'swhathesaid.I'mRT.That'swhat.Ifeel,yeah,Ipaidafool.
Ruby:Allright,whotriestocome
Josh:BackhereLet'ssaysaysthat.
Ruby:Allright.Perfect.Didyouhear,Mark
Josh:Ah,yes,maybehe'sseeingKingCinderella.
Ruby:Youdidit.Yeah,alright.Thislastquestionis.Aperfectone.
Josh:OK,IlovethewayyouguysputfansmusicinSAB,specificallytheremixesofalltheBmusic.Arethereanyplanstodosomethingsimilarinthefuture
Ruby:Ihavethebestwaytoanswerthatquestion.
31:30Startof“SABRetroTrailer”Video
Ruby:Youknowwhatweshoulddotoanswerthatquestion
Josh:Evenbetter.Yes,youjust.****it,Dustin.Notrealquick.Hey,canwegetanother
Video:No,almost.$1,000,000.Nowthejourneycontinueswithasilveradventurebox.That'swhereIkeepyou.WhathappenedNottherabbits.Yourhands.Movethesongoffyou'reyou'resuperveteransfrom.
Ruby:AndwearebackwithtwoawesomevisitorstoArenanetMcClain.
Ruby:Welcomeback.Iam.
Maclaine:Back.Alwaysapleasure.
Ruby:IamgladtohaveyoubackinforacoupledaysandDustinisvisitingusheretoarenaat40fewdays.Dustin,I'llletyouintroduceyourselfandalittlebitaboutwhoyouareandwhatyoudo.
Ruby:SoJustintalkorjusttalkalittlebitabouthowwehavebeenhearingsomeofyourmusicandhelovedthesemetalremixes.Wereachedouttoyoutogetsomeofyourmusicinourgame,andthat'sbeenyourdreamofyoursforawhile.Iwantedtohear.Iactuallydeliberatelynotaskedthisquestionofyouuntilnow.Iwantedtoheararereachingoutto.Youfromyourside.Iwantedtohearyoursideofthestory.
Dustin:Ititwasa,itwas.
Ruby:Itwas.
Dustin:Iscaredthecrapoutofmywife.Here'swhathappened.Youknowit'sit'sbeenkindoflikerunninglikeeverynowandthenlikesomebodyfromandwillsee,youknow,they'llseethealbumsthatrelease,youknow,hardbencheswantedtwoandI'llsay,like,youknow,someforMarina,thatpopupandthebandcampreceiptsandwhatnot.Andane-mailfromJamesAckleyshowsup,andhe'sjustlike,Ireally,reallylikethis.CanIgetthemusicinthegame
Maclaine:Jamesactuallyistheaudiodirectoratthe.Studioimportantto.
Dustin:AndIhad,like,Iwasplayingagame,Ithinksomegame,andIputthegamedown.KnowIwas.Iwas.Itkindofhad,like,thisinternalfreakout,like,andmywifewasactuallykindofworriedaboutme.
Dustin:AndthenwhenIkindofregainedmycomposure.I'mjustlike,youknow,this,this,something'shappening.Somethingreally,reallyimportantishappening.Andthen,ofcourse,IwasjustlikeJames.Yes,please.Soandandafterthatyouknowit'sjustamatterof,youknow,justme,youknow,signing,signing.MysoulandthenandthenIwasgonnago.Wehave.
Maclaine:Wehaveasoulnow.
Ruby:OK,wedidn'tactuallydomaybealittle,butsohowaboutsinceyouwerekindofinvolvedinprocessing,youwereawareofwhatwasgoingon
Maclaine:Yeah,well.
Ruby:Whatwasthisfromyourpointofview
Maclaine:JustkindoftoldthestoryabouthowDustingotonaradarandIthinkIthinkJoshmightactuallysenttheoriginalhardventureboxtome.Waybackwhen.Andit'sfunnybecause,youknow,asaasacomposer,like,IlistentootherpeoplesoundtracksandI'malwaysabigfan.AndthenwhenIwritemyownmusic,I'malwayslikeI'mnotfailing.It'sthisisterrible.Thenextonebebetterandit'sneverbeasgoodastheotherthing.
Ruby:You'rewaytoohard.
Maclaine:Butmaybe.
Ruby:OnyourselfYeah.
Maclaine:Butit'sit'sa.It'sfairlycommonamongjustwonderifcreatingsomethingasgoodasthingsthatinspireyourightandyoudon'tthinkaboutwhenthatmovesdownthechainandandtheotherpeoplelistentomusicanddon'thavethatsortof,Ohmygosh,thisisterrible.Soit'salwaysreallyflatteringtohavesomebodysay,youknow,takethetimeandsaythisisgoodenough.ThismeantsomethingenoughtomethatI'mwillingtoreinterpretandinvestmyowntimeandenergyandcreativityintoit.Soyouknow,Dustinwasthe1standprobablythehighest.ProfilestillofpeoplewhohavetakenanythingI'vedoneforthegameandandmadeittheirownandit'sanamazingthingtosee.AndsoI'mreallyhappythatnowit'spermanentlyenshrinedinthegame.Youknow,IthinkfortheforJosh'srequesttohavethiskindofmetalmusicfortheforthetribulationmodes,itdoesn'tdoabetterjobthanIcould,soI'mI'mhappy.Tosharethesharethelimelight,youknowit'sit'swelldeserved,yeah.
Ruby:It'sreallyneattoseeyourinterpretationofthemusicthatoriginallyfromclean.
Maclaine:It'sincredible.It'sincredible.Imean,youknow,whenyouare,when,likeIsaid,whenwriting,Ithinkit'sonlyIhavetogetitoutthewayitexistsinmymind,youdon'teverthinkthatitcouldbeturnedinsomethingtotallydifferent.AndIcouldneverhave.Writtenthemusic.Youknow,itwouldn'tsoundthesameifI'dwrittenit,youknow
Ruby:Yeah,butyouartistonit.
Maclaine:Putanother.Yeah,exactly.
Ruby:Bytheway,ifyouguyshavequestionsforDustinMcLean,we'llbeansweringafewquestions.Attheendtoo.Passalongtous.TherewassomethingelsethatIdon'tthinkyouknewweweregoingtodountilyousawitingame.Thatwasthestartofdusk.Sohowdidyoufindthat
Dustin:Well,IknewI.KnewIknew.Obviouslyit'sgonnabeineventually.Ithinkitwasgonnabesoon,like,superboxrelationships.LikeIwasactuallysittinginthehotelroomlike,oh,thisiscool.Hopefullythismeansthatmusicwillbeinthegamesoon.IwentontheGuildWarstwo,readit,andsomebodyactuallypostedascreenshotofdisk.AndIwaslike,alright,theydidit.TheyactuallytheyactuallywentaheadanddidthisandlikeIshouldhave,IguessIshouldhavekindofputittogetherbeforebutlikeitwasstillreally,reallyhugesurpriseandlikerightawaylikethefirstthingIdidwas,youknow,textmywife.I'mlikeitfinallyhappened.It'sfinallyhappened.Butit'sthat'sthat'sbasicallyhowIfoundit.Andthenofcourseyouknow,asfarasactuallyseeingitinthegame,afriendofminecodemightsomeofyouguysknowI'mgoingtoreadit.Heactuallyrecordedavideo.Ofitandsentittomeandwaslike,OK,thisthisisawesome.
Ruby:That'sfantastic.Nowthisisanitem.DidwegetthisplayingtribulationmodeOK,thisisanitemthatyoucangetingametribulationmodeandsinceI'mnotgoodenoughtoplayTribulationmode,Iwasn'tsure.
Dustin:NeitheramIneitheramI.
Ruby:Butyoucandoubleclickitanditwillplayyourversionofthe7thbox.Music,whichiskindofamazing.
Dustin:AndthenIguessit'salsosomethingwiththecloudaswelllike.Asitgetscloser.Ohman.
Ruby:Solookatthatgame.That'sthat'sanotherofJustinlittlemarksonourgame.SoandIhavetotelltoo,itwasreally,reallyhardnottellingyouwhyyouwerecomingouthere.
Dustin:Itwasreally,reallyhardtonottelleveryone.Elsethatwascomingout.
Ruby:DidII'mtryingtothink.WhenIemailedyou,it's.Beenatleasta.Monthortwoatleast.AmonthSoweaskedustocomeout.Weknewwewantedontheshow.Weweknewwhy.Anditwaslike,sowe'dlikeyou.Tocomeoutandvisitforacoupleofdays.Yes,it'sApril1st.It'sjustacoincidenceI'mnotmessingwithyou.Wereallydowantyoutocomeout.
Dustin:That'slikethefirstthingislike.OK.Isthisreal
Ruby:IfyouasksomebodytodosomethingunusualonApril1st,thefirstthingtheydoisbelikeyou'reanabsoluteliar.AndIwaslike,youknow,just,youknow,wereallylikeyourmusicand,youknow,excitedaboutthecontract.Weliketotalktousanditwasacoupleofweekslater,Ithinkyouemailedwerelike,hey,I'dliketoletpeopleknowyouknow,howsooncanItell
Dustin:Yeah,becauseyeah,becauseIwantedtobuildupbuzz.Youknow,Iwantedto.Iwantedto.Getovercreams.Behindthisaswell,yeah,Iwantto.
Maclaine:Trainingwegotmoving.
Dustin:Getthetraingoing.Yeah,butwewasn'tallowed.
Ruby:Butwehadthesecrettokeep.Yeah,wehadthesecretkey,andIhadthismomentofpanicintheintheroomwherewesit.AndIwaslikeyouguys,Dustinjustemailedmeandhewantstoknowwhenhecantellthathe'scomingout.WhatdoIdoAndeverybodywaslike,oh,God,hellno.Sowehadto,youknow,wenotonlyaresittingonthisenormoussuperadventurebox.Andit'ssohardto.Keepthe.Wewantedtotelleverybodyandwecouldn't.NowIhavetotellDustin.Youcantellrightbeforeyougetontheplane.That'swhatyoucan.
Dustin:Didn'tevendothat.
Ruby:AndIfeltterrible.Ifeltawful.Youryourlivetweetingwasvery,verygood.I'msuperimpressed.Youdidwell.
Dustin:Yeah,Ifiguredthatwouldbefun.Butyeah,Ilike.Ireallywantedto.Justlike,assoonasI.Wokeup,gotontheplane.Ijustwanttobuildrightthere,butitwasincrediblyhardtellingyouthatyou.
Ruby:Itwasincrediblyhardtellingyouthatyoucouldn't.Iwantedto,soIapologize.Youdidgreat.
Dustin:No,no,it'sfine.
Ruby:Ahero.Soallright,IhaveaquestionthatIalwaysaskthisreallyhardquestion.What'syourfavoritetrackthatyou'vedone
Dustin:MyfavoritetrackthatI'vedoneasfarasguitarsupermixasfarasIactuallyImeanasfaraslikethelike.
Ruby:Aretheytheworst2
Dustin:WhatI'mproudofasfaraslikehowitcameout,howitactuallysoundandmyabilitytoactuallypullitoffisIdidaremixcalledOneWintersDaynightofit'saremixofLenaChappelle's,youknow,thegreat.HereandIgaveitlikethisfeeloflikeTransurbanorchestra,heaviersuper,superproudofhowitcameouteasilyeasilymyfavoriteone.
Ruby:That'sawesome.
Dustin:Andofcourse,youknowthatonethatIreleasedwhenIwhenIgot.Hereaswellasfaraslike,youknow,theenergythatIputintoit,theproductionvaluesthatcameoutofit.I'mreallyproudofthataswell.Sothosearedefinitelymytoptwo.ButIthinkonthetop.
Ruby:That'sawesome.Youhaveafavorite.Justin'swork.
Maclaine:Well,I'mseeingsoaquestionherefromcreatorburdenthattiesintothis.
Ruby:Sortofexcitedaboutthat.
Maclaine:So,yeah,yesterdayDustinsentmehisremixoftheheartofThornstein,whichalreadyislike,it'sliketailormadeforaheavymetalcoverbecauseit'sprettyhard.
Dustin:Ititis.
Maclaine:Yeah,it'sprettyhard.SoIlisten.Ifinallygotachancetolistentoitlastnightandit'sawesomeagain.Incrediblyflatteringthatitexistssountil.
Ruby:SowebroughtDustinoveryesterdayandhesaidhangon,IsaidIdidn'twanttodothisuntilIsteppedinthebuilding.Wegotinsidetheofficeandhegotouthisphoneandset.ThisnewtracktopublicandI'llletyoutellaboutthatone.
Dustin:Andit'smoreorlessitkindofitkindofHarkinsbacktomyearlierworkswhereIwasn'treallygenreblendingoranythinglikethat.Itwasjuststraightupmetallikejustcompletemetaliterationswithlike.Ifyouchangetolikethe.Theoverallsongstructureandwhatnot.IttookafewcreativelibertiesmoreintotheremixthatremixesthatIusedtodoalot,butnowI'malotbetter.Atit.SoIjustreallywantedtosortoflikehavesomethingthatsortofembodiesmegoinglikefullcirclewiththatmusic.Imorethananything,Iwasjustreally,reallyproudofhowImanagedtojustcapturemyownsignaturestylewiththatmusic.Andmanagedtopayhomageto.EverythingthatlikethatHawthornethemewasoriginallyit'sliketomelikeIfeellikeififtheentireGuildWarstwosoundtrackweretoreplacebereplacedbymetalliketheentirethingforsomestrangereason,itwouldn'tmakeanysense.Butifitwere,thatcouldveryeasilybethenewtitlescreen,soIwantedtokeepthatenergy.
Ruby:Ifindmyselfhopingthat's.Ahint,yeah.
Dustin:No,no.
Maclaine:Ifyou'resigningyourselfallthework,please.Bemyguest.
Dustin:Yeah,heartofThornsoundtrackislikealikeafulldiscomusic.Soul'strackswerelike4disks.Yeah,Ican'tdothatmuch.Idon'thaveenoughtime.
Ruby:McleanslikeIunderstand.
Maclaine:Yeah,Idon'thavetimeeither,butIfigure.Howtodoit
Ruby:Sothatwasthatwaslike.Aheadoftimeasacreator,burdenwas.AskingJustin.
Maclaine:Oh,Ispilledbeans.I'msorry.
Ruby:It'stotallytotallyfine.DoyouplanonremixinganyofthehockeyAndtheanswerisyes,healreadydid.
Dustin:Ialreadydid.
Ruby:Goodjob.
Dustin:There'sanotheroneonthelisthere.
Maclaine:Sorrywasaquestionforme.
Ruby:Youthinkitmay
Dustin:Beno,I'mthenextoneupthatI'mplanning.Onremixing,yeah.
Ruby:Ilovethatone.Thisquestionismaybefor.YouIdon'tknowhowmuchyou.KnowIcertainlydon'tknow.
Maclaine:OK,soIreadit.SothisisKoogMerricksoundsright.Anychancewe'llseemoremusicitemslikethecardinthegame,liketheSharkDustSharkThatisagreatquestion,thatwholething.We'vecreatedandexistsoutsideofmysphereofinfluence,soI.Speaker:OK.
Maclaine:Havetolearn.Aboutittoday,butpostitonReddit.OK,soit'sit'slikely,butIIdon't.Knowsoit.
Ruby:You'reaskingthreepeoplewhodon'tknow.
Maclaine:Demandedyeah,shoutshoutloudlyintotheskyandandseemaybesomedaythat'stheanswerwillbeyes.Ihavenoidea.
Ruby:Allright,canI'lljuststartwithyouandthenmovetoDustin.YouguystelluswherecanyouTelluswherewecanfindthehotsoundtrack.
Maclaine:Sothere'sthere'sahandfuloftracksthatareoutonthearenanetSoundCloudpage,whichwasjustsortofplantingaseedandseeinghowitgrew,but.
Ruby:Really.Yeah.
Maclaine:Likea,youknow,likeavineofsomesort,youknow,plantingtheseedsforavine.
Ruby:No,Igetit.
Maclaine:Butit'soniTunesandit'sonAmazonfordigitaldownload,whichyoucangettoday.Andthenifyouwantaphysicalversionofit,thereisavinylrelease.Whichincludesadownloadcodeforthefulldigitalsoundtrack.Thatis,it'skindofstillinpre-order.It'sbeing.Iactuallytalkedtothemlastweekandit'sit'scoming.
Ruby:Ohreally
Maclaine:Idon'thaveadate,buttheysaidMay.Solet'ssaymay.
Ruby:OK,OK.
Maclaine:Yeah,it'sofficial.Ithinkit'sinproductionrightnow,butit'sthisbeautifulpackagethattheydesignedwith.It'satwoLPsetoftheseincrediblegreenrecordsandit'samazinggatefold.Coverwithincredibleartfromartteamhere.
Ruby:It'sbeautiful.
Maclaine:SothatyoucanorderthatnowonI-8bits,GuildWarstwomerchandisepage.AndIdon'tknowifit'sonboardtwo.comorifthere'saportaltothe.
Ruby:Itisthereisaportal.Totheambitsiteso.
Maclaine:OK,soyougetitthere.AndlikeIsaid,itcomeswithafulldigitaldownloadcodewhichincludestracksthataren't.WehadcutafewfromtheLPbecauseofrunningtime.Physicalconstraints.
Ruby:Physicalspacelimitations.
Maclaine:Soyeah,togetthere.Andit'llbeoutinamonthorso.
Ruby:Andwe'recanwefindyou,Dustin
Dustin:ObviouslyyouknowitstartsatdotcomiswherekindofmyhubontheInternetis.YoucanfindmeonYouTubeyouknowYouTubeslashandstartsatdusk.That'swhereIpostlikeallofmymusicforthemostpart.I'malsoonSoundCloud,butIdon'tposteverythingthereandthenofcourseyouknowifyoufollowmeonsocialmediaforwhatevercrazyreason,Twitter,Facebook,allthatstuff.It'sallthesameusernamestarts.
Ruby:Ireallyliketheconsistencyitmakes.I'veaskedsomepeoplelike,OK,wellherethisismyname.Overhereismynameandlikeforget.
Maclaine:Itunderscoresandyouknow,like,OK,looksometimes.
Ruby:Youneedunderscoresomegot.Twitterfirsttookyourname.Alright,you.
Maclaine:Youneedanamelikemine.Nobody'sgotmyname,soit'sreallyeasyforme.
Ruby:Wouldn'tthinkpeoplewouldtakemine.Butthey.Yeah.That'slikeawholeotherwellofbitterness.Sometimestheunderscorehastohappen.Allright,soitstartsatdusk.Dotcomisagoodhome.Allright.Thankyouguysvery,verymuch.
Maclaine:Thankyou,Justin.
Ruby:Iappreciateyourtime.Iappreciatebothofyoutoo.
Maclaine:Thankyou.Ofcourse,yeah.
Ruby:Allright.Wearegoodandwewillseeyouguysagainvery,verysoononyourchat.